Recently you’ve probably heard about the discovery of the perversion files that have been kept in secrecy by the Boy Scouts. Just what in the hell – any leaders/volunteers or anyone involved in the program with direct contact with the youth should be vetted. Then these sickos knowingly cover up known incidents and patterns of abuse.

I have three questions: who the fuck? what the fuck? and why the fuck? I think anyone with any involvement and knowledge of these acts should be charged. Not only the nearly 8,000 leaders but all who were involved. Period. I know that the statue of limitations will likely be used to protect themselves since there are reports that date back to the 1940’s. Sometimes the statue of limitations is a really fucked up way of letting people off the hook for shit they should be punished for.

As someone who is involved with scouting, this a really shitty thing on top of other shitty things this organization has done in the recent years.

Questions: Should you rationalize issues that don’t directly affect you to make decisions in your life that do affect you? i.e. stop supporting an organization for keeping safe harbor for a bunch of perverts, even if those perverts have no effect on your experience with said organization

At what point should an organization be forced to disband due to reoccurring issues? i.e. these jackasses, churches, care centers, etc.

Happy Friday y’all!




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  1. five2one 6 months ago

    I and my bestfriend, and other friends, had that problem, with that group.

    Not much to say about it, not something I would want to have on record. Why do that? That disturbs me.

    I am open about this here, but that is it.

    In regards to religions in this trouble, they believe they are above the law, and that is wrong. They need to be prosecuted for covering up epidemic sexual abuse. In some cases, in some countries, these groups are being so. (Scientology, Jehovah Witnesses, Catholic, and other cultic Christian groups that see their own group as being ‘the only way to salvation’ have this conceited idea of themselves being above the law.)

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  2. Santa Bunny 6 months ago

    Protecting children should be our #1 priority. But no……

    See: Catholic Church – these people are literally fucking children and no one seems to care. Watch ‘Spotlight’ or ‘The Keepers’. Pedophilia is alive and well in the Catholic community.

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  3. Weenis 6 months ago

    At what point should an organization be forced to disband due to reoccurring issues? i.e. these jackasses, churches, care centers, etc.

    What organization forces the other organization to disband?

    What organization is so free of corruption and reoccurring issues, that they have the qualification to be such a police force of justice?

    As long as people are involved, there are going to be scandals. You show me an organization free of sin, give me 5 minutes in their life, and I’ll show you unethical behavior and closets full of bones.

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    • Tits McGee 6 months ago

      @Weenis

      TRUMP. LOTS OF BONES AND UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR.

      IS YOUR IDEA THAT SINCE ALL ORGANIZATIONS ARE CORRUPT, THAT SHOULD BE THE NORM? IF EVERYONE’S CORRUPT, NO ONE IS?

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      • Weenis 6 months ago

        @Tits McGee

        My point is this: instead of giving corrupt organizations carte blanche power to disband other organizations, we should justly punish the people perpetrating crimes instead of punishing the entire organization.

        And I’m not defending Boy Scouts here, I think their a screwed up organization that has been liberalizing over the last many years to churn out a bunch of soy boys and accept girls in the ranks.

        I’m all for the organization dying, but BSA should die because it’s not relevant or sound, not because a bunch of soccer moms are pissed off that some pedo’s are diddling children.

        Let’s shoot the pedophiles in the head, and then continue to let the boy scouts as an organization commit suicide.

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        mamajoy 6 months ago

        @Weenis

        Weenis: @Tits McGee

        My point is this: instead of giving corrupt organizations carte blanche power to disband other organizations, we should justly punish the people perpetrating crimes instead of punishing the entire organization.

        But aren’t these organizations at fault for not doing either their due diligence with volunteers and leaders or reporting abuse? Why shouldn’t the organization take the heat?

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      • Santa Bunny 6 months ago

        @mamajoy

        I am not familiar with the details, but there’s got to be dirty shit going on. Probably the Church – a.k.a. ‘Big Religion’ – is involved.

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      • Weenis 6 months ago

        @mamajoy

        Whether the organization is at fault or not is hard to prove. If the organization is at fault, people should en masse remove their kids.

        It would be disbanded because a moral people don’t want to entrust their children to an immoral org. Also, if we justly punished pedophiles in this country, and the entire organization was at fault, the entire organization would cease to exist because all the pedo’s would be dead.

        No need to setup a watchdog org or an org that watches orgs for misconduct.

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      mamajoy 6 months ago

      @Weenis This is true. I suppose that no organization can truly police another without dirt on their hands.

      So how about this – at what point should an organization receive disciplinary action and/or lose benefits(like their non-profit status) for these type of repeated offenses.

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  4. Scarlett2 6 months ago

    I think it is a problem. I take James Baldwin’s stance. Jame’s Baldwin famously said we are responsible for anything we didn’t do anything to stop. I think we need to take a stand on these kinds of issues, and not rationalize it because we were not directly impacted.

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      mamajoy 6 months ago

      @Scarlett2 I like that, quote…but I couldn’t find the history/context of it. Maybe it was paraphrased or someone else said it? Either way, it’s a great stance, “We are responsible for anything we didn’t do anything to stop.”

      I have been thinking about this. Like @weenis mentioned there are probably very few organizations or businesses that we support either directly or indirectly that haven’t done some shady things. I guess at the end of the day we are forced in a way to rationalize our further decisions with issues like this, if we throw up our hands and walk away from every incident that we find to be offensive or unethical it would quickly eliminate many of our options. I feel like I’m rambling…sorry.

      It’s good to see you again. :smile:

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