This topic seems to come up a lot in real life and is also one of the reasons this website has become like a ghost town, I think. I have some questions, answer one or all.

Do you think it is okay for people to have different beliefs than you?

How do you approach or socialize with those who have different beliefs than you?

Is there a cut off point for you where someone who believes different than you acts or speaks with you in such a way that you realize it is better not to engage with that person at all? If so, what is that cut off point?




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    Scarlett2 1 month ago

    For myself I will say that it is definitely okay that other people have different beliefs than me. I don’t expect everyone to think like I do. I feel I have a lot in common with a great many people when it comes to my beliefs, but then there are others who probably disagree with me on everything and that’s okay! I think we can learn from each other or just agree to disagree. Last week, a gentleman came to my door and he was preaching to me and I informed him I am science based, but respect his beliefs. We both agreed it is okay to disagree and ended up having a very nice conversation.

    As far as how I approach or socialize with others who have different beliefs, I kinda test the waters. I check it out to see If the person has a range of interests and if there are a few ways where we find common ground or if we are just going to constantly inflame each other. If I know a particular friend has a deep faith in a god, I don’t bring up the subject. I don’t try to impose my own beliefs on them. I have a friend who has this along with being a republican. we hang out and go places and steer clear of those two topics and it works out fine. ELsewise I am able to converse with people online who think differently to a degree as long as the conversation is peaceful and reasonable.

    Is there a cutoff for me? Yes, absolutely. One thing I won’t tolerate is name calling because of my beliefs. That has happened and I set a firm boundary because it is not okay with me for another to call me names because I believe differently from them. Sometimes if the discussions are heated, I will just say to the person, “I think we have to agree to disagree.”

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  2. ladybarbara 1 month ago

    My answer would be much like your answer to this.

    I would like to not argue with people that want to argue their point. I know that when it comes to voting, I am free to cast my vote as I see fit. This is America where we have freedom of speech and a vast variety of beliefs. I don’t push my beliefs on others. If someone wants to take over the conversation with a speech, I get quiet and listen. Inside, I am shaking my head, but I listen to them talk. In the end, I still have my opinion, I just did not waste my time pushing my opinion on them.

    I remember a time that I showed my roommate (Vivi) that we needed to have emergency food set aside in case of an emergency —- but she kept eating my supplies. When I gave her a talk about being prepared for a flood, earthquake, or the electricity failing, she said, “I am ready. I have a jar of peanut butter set aside.” I shook my head and gave up. I decided to still have emergency food for us, but to keep it in a locked room and secured away from her.

    When it came to Andrew Littler, he was always rancid in his arguments and spring loaded with name calling and insults. I had to stop talking to him. I still read his argumentative Tweets on Twitter, but I do not answer him. I sit back and read where other people do verbal combat with him. I shake my head and go on with my peaceful life.

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      Scarlett2 1 month ago

      @ladybarbara why do you think so many people struggle with this? Do you think it is plain and simple emotional reactivity? I get that I become emotionally reactive if someone calls me names, but at the same time, I don’t have to take that. We are free to allow in our lives what we want.

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      • ladybarbara 1 month ago

        @Scarlett2 When someone resorts to name calling, it is because they are losing the fight and need something extra (like a kick to your ego) in order to feel like they are winning.

        Long ago, when Chanterella launched her attack on you, most of us were on YOUR side, but you went away and did not stay to see that fact. We all have made bad choices in our love life. Chantarella, sitting in her little Nordic village and not having a romantic life, had no room to talk. At least, you were trying at life and love. She was sitting there as cold as ice and making judgements. When you react by going away, you don’t always see that people can see your side and are waiting for you to return.

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      Scarlett2 1 month ago

      @ladybarbara also wondering if maybe one of Andrew littlers triggers was a sense of unfairness in society what he perceived as unfair?

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      • ladybarbara 1 month ago

        @Scarlett2 Not really. All of his hate seems to be aimed at President Trump, even though Andrew lives in Canada and anything Trump does to increase the economy, or create more jobs, or reduce unemployment, or tax incentives doesn’t even effect Andrew, or Canada. If Trump is trying to calm down other country leaders that are building nukes, still that has no effect on Andrew’s Canadian life. Yet, Andrew goes on with words of seething hot hate. It must be stupidity, or just that Andrew loves to irritate other people. So, I just pop some popcorn and sit back to watch people argue with Andrew.

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  3. immortal_pirate 1 month ago

    1: Yes.
    2: Communicate and exchange…and listen.
    3: I have a very low tolerance for stupid or ignorant people. That being said, let me quantify that there is a distinct difference between the two.
    A) Stupid people are basically unaware of facts about a particular subject.
    B) Ignorant people are aware of facts but they choose to ignore the truth, they tend to follow the herd…this is where the term “Herd Mentality” comes from. People who believe that Socialism, (which has been historically an abject failure everywhere it has been tried), is somehow better than Capitalism and Freedom. These people are ignorant and more often than not, they are stupid too.
    4: I refuse to co-exist with people that want to behead me simply because I refuse to accept their so called “religion”. FACT: Islam is not the religion of peace, it is a political ideology founded by a pedophile, based solely on hate, intolerance, and violence.

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      Scarlett2 1 month ago

      @immortal_pirate I know very little about islam, but a free exchange of ideas sounds reasonable!

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    • Squirrel 1 month ago

      @immortal_pirate I’m as open to changing my mind as you are. I like my beliefs being tested, but not by ad hominems and only legitimately and not out of cowardly bullshit that can’t be proven as remotely factual. I like changing my beliefs but can’t stand when you’re so closed to concepts such as the dangers of pure capitalist markets (are taxes socialism? Do you think libraries are bad? Community colleges? Prisons? All are based on redistribution of wealth. Pollution laws? Unleaded gasoline is only possible because we’re not pure capitalists and have socialist traits to our economy. If it works use it if it doesn’t don’t, but don’t give me bullshit about medicare being a scam unless you choose never to use it and can prove it does more harm than good.

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      • immortal_pirate 1 month ago

        @Squirrel Well, being of the age where I will be eligible to use Medicare soon, it isn’t a scam. I paid into the system all of my working life and I expect to get a return on my investment.
        Income taxes are immoral and unconstitutional.

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      • ladybarbara 1 month ago

        @immortal_pirate Also, Medicare is NEVER free. I pay $139.00 each month for my Medicare, and you will be paying about the same for your Medicare. It comes to about $1,668.00 a year. It has been paid into for years and is not a Socialist scam.

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  4. Yin 1 month ago

    Depends on what we disagree about. There are things like minimum wage or religion or something of that nature that maybe we can debate on or something. If their belief is killing people (like the current immigration situation), then I would ignore them for the most part. I can’t change people that are fine with something like that.

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  5. Georockstar09 1 month ago

    If there’s a belief in God, then we have a lot in common and there is no need for animosity. My own religion accepts all other religions as coming from the same God so that allows me to get the “my religion is the true religion” idiocy out of the way. And surprisingly, most religious people have the same idea about religious tolerance. That is, BEING tolerant is more important than being part of the “true religion”.

    My only cutoff is usually with atheists most of the time. If there’s no belief in God, whether in person or online I am not keen on going into a barrage of how stupid I am for believing in God. Sometimes I try to explain something about, say, the Bible, how something is a metaphor, and they go on about how we’re not supposed to cherry pick, like they are, ironically, the most stubborn Christian fanatics I’ve met in their unwillingness to look at different views of the Bible – yet claim to be atheists.

    So with atheists I just tiptoe around the topic. Because what’s the point. And it’s hard to find any real connection with such people, I find. If they were at least OPEN to talking about it in more depth, it’d be ok, but they just keep acting like I’m about to whip out the book of Mormon and barrage them with dumb religious beliefs (not that I’m a Mormon). Which, frankly, is kind of insulting.

    No offence if you’re an atheist. There have been a few atheists I had a good interaction with. And there have been odd, stubborn Christians I’ve talked to. But atheists were the most negative, because of the name calling. Christians, at least, well, their religion dictates them to be nice. And I think that’s kinda the point of religion.

    Jehova’s witnesses knocking on my door at 9 AM is super annoying too.

    I think this website became a ghost town when Soul Pancake cut off its comment section. There used to be a lot of cool discussions, but now on Soul Sequel, only a few people transferred over. Even I had a hard time finding it again. But the whole point of Soul Pancake was to talk about this stuff. I don’t know why they did that. Maybe it was getting toxic.

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      Scarlett2 1 month ago

      @Georockstar09 yeah, I can see your points there. That would be troublesome if others are acting like you’re stupid for believing in god or not being even willing to converse about it. I consider myself agnostic. I had a great conversation with the guy that came to my door to talk about faith. he said he was visiting me and my neighbors because he has found that a lot of people blame god for what is going on in the world today. I find it odd that people would blame the god they believe in. I think people are allowed to believe whatever they want to believe. I am like you in that I think its fine to have a conversation about these things as long as neither one tries to force their beliefs on the others. If someone were to ask me why I am agnostic, I think I can remain calm and explain it to them without trying to impose my thoughts on them.

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