What do you think?




27 Comments

Leave a response

You must be to post a response.

  1. Weenis 3 months ago

    It’s solid.

    Reply

    You must be to vote.

  2. Author
    immortal_pirate 3 months ago

    …or blaming the employees of General Motors and Ford for drunk drivers.

    Reply

    You must be to vote.

    • griz 3 months ago

      @immortal_pirate
      Cars are perhaps not the best comparison. They are registered, licensed, insured, easily tracked by police.

      Reply

      You must be to vote.

      • Weenis 3 months ago

        @griz

        It’s harder to get a gun than it is a car.

        Guns are registered, and you need to pass a background check to get one.

        In addition, there are numerous factors of disqualification that would prevent an individual from purchasing a gun that don’t exist for a car.

        Reply

        You must be to vote.

      • griz 3 months ago

        @Weenis
        But there’s far more restrictions, regulations, tracking and licensing requirements upon the car.

        Let’s put little easily-visible license tags on all the guns, and give the police the ability to search them for ownership as easily they can for a car.

        That would probably be an acceptable compromise.

        Reply

        You must be to vote.

      • Weenis 3 months ago

        @griz

        Let’s put little easily-visible license tags on all the guns

        This law is already in place.

        and give the police the ability to search them for ownership as easily they can for a car.

        This law is also already in place.

        Reply

        You must be to vote.

      • griz 3 months ago

        @Weenis
        I must have imagined the videos I recently watched where records were still kept on microfiche and paper, many of them damaged, kept in centralized vaults.

        But I would be interested to see a picture of one of your guns with a little clearly-visible, trackable identificatory tag on it.

        Reply

        You must be to vote.

      • Weenis 3 months ago

        @griz

        You did imagine that. Cause that’s not how it works.

        Here’s a picture of the trackable identificatory(not a word and you’re dumb) tag.

        Reply

        You must be to vote.

      • griz 3 months ago

        @Weenis
        Is that just a serial number? Cars have that and a tag as well — one that is uniquely yours.

        And check the dictionary. I win that scrabble round!

        Reply

        You must be to vote.

      • Weenis 3 months ago

        @griz

        Here’s the thing, I don’t even support serial numbers. As you can see in another thread response, we need to repeal the 68 firearm infringements. This would remove serial number tracking.

        No one needs to know what or how many guns anyone has. There’s no need for it.

        Reply

        You must be to vote.

  3. Gina 3 months ago

    The NRA are not solely to blame. They are accomplices by lobbying against ANY form of gun control laws. That’s what I believe.

    Reply

    You must be to vote.

    • Author
      immortal_pirate 3 months ago

      @Gina Using that twisted logic that you seem to always do, let’s blame Oscar Meyer for the asphyxiation of a small child who dies choking on a hotdog.
      Let’s blame drownings on water.
      We can blame forest fires on the manufacturers of strike anywhere matches…

      You’re free to believe whatever you want, that’s your choice, but I believe…you’re wrong.
      The NRA does not and has never promoted gun violence.
      Gun control, (more over, the outlawing of private ownership of firearms), works rather well in totalitarian regimes. Just ask the Jews from Germany in WWII…oh, that’s right, you can’t because they’re DEAD, 6 million people exterminated by the Nazis because they didn’t have the means to defend themselves.

      Reply

      You must be to vote.

      • griz 3 months ago

        @immortal_pirate
        A hot dog does have a valid usage in relation to a child — and one cannot really relate what is going on in your schools to some kind of “chance accident”.

        A lot of regions have laws requiring fencing around pools. An organization that when around actively blocking such would be dastardly.

        Actually, most forest-fires are sparked by lightning! And usually one walks around with matches because they have some utilitarian purpose, and not just because “it’s my right” or “I might have to burn something down”.

        Beliefs that center around calling others wrong, are rarely righteous. Usually they are more self-serving.

        In a real sense, actively blocking attempts to quell the rising incidence of gun violence — for reasons that have more to do with fears and feelings of “what might be” — is almost as bad as endorsing it.

        There’s really not a lot of high moral ground to stand on here.

        A change seems to be on the horizon. Such ludicrous reaches to try to keep a stance standing . . . would seem evidence that there is a stance that needs to fall. Let’s hope that just because it’s about guns, that those with the guns, don’t choose for a gun-violent solution. There certainly are abundant threats to this end.

        Because that would sort of be proving the point that the availability of guns has a direct causal relationship with gun violence.

        Reply

        You must be to vote.

    • griz 3 months ago

      @Gina
      If there’s a “blame” it’s just human nature.

      But an organization actively blocking attempts to deal with a public safety crisis involving so many innocent children . . . would seem to have a blame-magnet up its ass.

      Reply

      You must be to vote.

  4. griz 3 months ago

    “Blame” rarely resolves an issue. Especially when the evil seems to keep re-creating itself wherever there are a free abundance of guns and few safeguards.

    But there is a reprehensible aspect to any organization actively blocking attempts to deal with a growing national safety crisis affecting so many children with little more than the justification of “It’s my right”.

    For a long time “it was my right” in certain areas to own a slave, beat a wife with a stick of a prescribed size. But we realized the social cost was far higher than any actual or perceived benefit.

    Reply

    You must be to vote.

    • Weenis 3 months ago

      @griz

      “Blame” rarely resolves an issue. Especially when the evil seems to keep re-creating itself wherever there are a free abundance of guns and few safeguards.

      Good, then stop blaming responsible gun owners.
      Stop blaming guns.
      Stop blaming gun laws.

      Reply

      You must be to vote.

      • griz 3 months ago

        @Weenis
        Blaming people, OK. How exactly does one “blame” a gun or a legislation. Because they cannot defend themselves, we simply assess the gun as something dangerous with a direct causal relationship on gun violence; and the gun laws as manifestly insufficient.

        Reply

        You must be to vote.

      • Weenis 3 months ago

        @griz

        By saying we need further gun legislation is putting the blame on the gun itself and not the people using it.

        You’re blaming the lack or current state of the laws, which is what is pushing you to voice your approval for greater gun control legislation.

        Reply

        You must be to vote.

      • griz 3 months ago

        @Weenis
        Again, how does one “blame” a gun?
        That’s almost as silly as naming storms just so one can “blame” them. There’s a real “blame addiction” at work in America — leading to a relatively new phenomenon, the wanton fear of blame. (It’s why everything from observations to comments are taken as some form of blameful accusation, requiring disclaimer)

        The main thing I would like to “approve”, is safer living spaces, less lead flying about killing random people just out to live life, perhaps a less worshipful attitude towards weapons.

        The latter isn’t particularly a deal-breaker — but would be far better in the long run for everyone.

        Reply

        You must be to vote.

  5. luftballooneyegouge 3 months ago

    Earth to @immortal_pirate
    …come in @immortal_pirate

    Do you think parents should be held legally responsible?

    I don’t think the NRA should be held legally responsible or really blamed either.

    I do get why people wanna throw rocks at the clubhouse though…

    Reply

    You must be to vote.

    • griz 3 months ago

      @luftballooneyegouge
      Do you think there might be benefit for the society if there were some way of holding people and organizations accountable for serious violations against the society?

      I realize the difficulty and implications. “Responsible” means they have to pay. “Accountable” means they can be called to account for their role in say, raising a toxic social monster. Or in fighting for their right to have almost unrestricted access to weapons that facilitate the slaughter of many.

      Reply

      You must be to vote.

  6. Gina 3 months ago

    The Modern American Conservative Movement

    Reply

    You must be to vote.

  7. Georockstar09 3 months ago

    Except for one huge difference: United Airlines – and all other airlines and airports all over the world, not just the United States, took precautions immediately afterwards to limit any possible terrorist activities via air travel. In other words, steps were taken. Responsibility was taken.

    Reply

    You must be to vote.

  8. novelist65 3 months ago

    That is completely right on. That is an uninformed argument for the problem we have. The NRA isn’t the problem.

    Reply

    You must be to vote.

©2018 Soul Sequel | All Rights Reserved

 
or

Log in with your credentials

or    

Forgot your details?

or

Create Account