• No context to give – just a question up for debate.

    • Yes, definitely. I did some research on this and not only is it not included, but continues to be scorned in some institutions. Gay and lesbian teens have a high suicide rate, and we can be allies by taking a stand on this very thing. I think that laws need to be passed to provide this information in the schools. Anything less is discriminatory and non inclusive. Homosexuality is a fact of life. Science has proven it isn’t a choice, and a great many people fall on a spectrum.

    • See, this is one of them things that I never really ever thought about but I’d be for it. I just question what exactly is taught in it that isn’t in what they teach now, but I’m totally down. Honestly, I forget most of what we were taught. I remember a discussion about being careful because someone may poke a hole in the condom and at some point I vomited. Man, I really don’t take detailed sexual talk well… Had an issue during a discussion about testicular cancer once as well. I’m broken, lol.

    • It should, as all should.

      It won’t.

      But it should.

    • We included it in our children’s home school curriculum.

      We told them same sex attraction is sinful and deviant behavior. Same with boys who pretend to be girls, and girls who pretend to be boys.

      End of chapter.

      • @Weenis

        So the cycle of hate continues. Well done.

        So we’re different colours
        And we’re different creeds
        And different people have different needs
        It’s obvious you hate me
        Though I’ve done nothing wrong
        I never even met you
        So what could I have done

        I can’t understand
        What makes a man
        Hate another man
        Help me understand

        I bet you’re an anti-vaxer as well.

      • @Weenis The more I read you, the more I like you.

        • @ladybarbara

          Why thank you :)

        • @ladybarbara @immortal_pirate

          Do you consider your/Stinky’s sons to be deviant and sinful?

          • @Santa Bunny They are not my sons. No, I don’t believe they are sinful deviants. I don’t really know either of them well enough to make that call, but I know about them only by what Lady Barbara has told me.

            • @immortal_pirate @ladybarbara

              Yes, that’s why I included the ‘Stinky’s’ in there.

              Anyway, do you believe that the LGBTQ (or whatever they are acronymed now) community are committing deviant and sinful acts while being with their partners?

              Not prying, seeing where you draw the line, or if you agree with @Weenis

              • @Santa Bunny That is between them and God. Where I posted the big red NO, teaching kids about homosexuality or offering it as a viable lifestyle choice is not something the school should be teaching. If anything, school health classes should be teaching abstinence. Choices have rewards and consequences, good choices have rewards and poor choices have consequences.

                Obvious results of homosexuality…HIV and AIDS. I’m not going to argue about a persons choices…I’m just stating a fact.

                On another thread, it was pointed out that I gifted $10,000.00 to a gay (lesbian) couple to help them buy a house because of an injustice that occurred. They were also co-workers and close friends of mine when I worked at the prison. If I “draw a line”, I do so based on facts not feeling.

              • @Santa Bunny I have a problem understanding what “sinful” is. When I was Jewish, we did not have a concept of a hell, or Devil — nor judging others as “sinful”. I don’t live my life judging others. In the Baha’i Faith, we also don’t judge others. We also don’t have a belief in a hell or Devil. So, I don’t have bad judgements about other people.

                As for sexuality being taught in school —– school is not the place for sexuality. It is learned in life itself.

          • @Santa Bunny No. One is one of the nicest people on the planet. He is gay, but he doesn’t show it and doesn’t let on at work. He works at a children’s hospital making robotics that help children do things their crippled bodies cannot do. Since he works with children, he keeps his personal life quiet. I rarely hear from him, unless a holiday is coming up and he wants money. The other son spends his life blaming others for his fucked up life of drugs and failing. He never talks to me and I don’t bother to talk to him. He is a grifter and that is why I don’t have him anywhere around me. His being gay has nothing to do with why I don’t talk to him. He finds ways of sucking money out of my bank account. I don’t care about his personal life, or his sex life. He is who he is and he has been that way from birth.

            Because I live far away in Arizona, both of my sons use it as an excuse not to visit. So, Immortal Pirate has never met them. When they talk to each other, they refer to Immortal Pirate as the Big Cop that Mom lives with. So, the son who uses drugs will NEVER want to meet him. He is paranoid of Cops.

    • Yes. As a Christian I continue to be appalled at fake Christians who persecute this fragile population minority.

      Jesus taught not to judge, these fake Christians show they are fake, because they do judge. They judge wrongly, and have a narrow mind.

      • @five2one

        “Jesus taught not to judge”

        then don’t.
        Fill your heart with LOVE.
        Live YOUR life.
        Don’t compare YOUR life with others.
        There is too much GOOD in this world for YOU to worry about the little things.

        Be YOU, my man. That’s good enough for me. :smile:

    • No one’s sexual preference should be the subject of any classroom “curriculum.” You can’t teach/preach who an individual should love according to any master class or dictum. What needs to be taught is “acceptance” and “tolerance.” And it should be taught is social studies or some human nature course.

  • Ugh that conference sounds like a nightmare. Some people are more influential than others, but it doesn’t mean that everyone doesn’t have something to bring to the table. I don’t like the way extroverts are assumed to be good sales people while introverts are better suited to become accountants.

    People interact differently with one another,…[Read more]

  • @Scarlett2 I like that, quote…but I couldn’t find the history/context of it. Maybe it was paraphrased or someone else said it? Either way, it’s a great stance, “We are responsible for anything we didn’t do anything to stop.”

    I have been thinking about this. Like @weenis mentioned there are probably very few organizations or businesses that w…[Read more]

  • @Weenis

    Weenis: @Tits McGee

    My point is this: instead of giving corrupt organizations carte blanche power to disband other organizations, we should justly punish the people perpetrating crimes instead of punishing the entire organization.

    But aren’t these organizations at fault for not doing either their due diligence with…[Read more]

  • @Weenis This is true. I suppose that no organization can truly police another without dirt on their hands.

    So how about this – at what point should an organization receive disciplinary action and/or lose benefits(like their non-profit status) for these type of repeated offenses.

  • I am many things, but not in a split-personality manipulating creepy sort of way. I am just flexible enough where I can be what I need to be given the right circumstances. I can be a leader or a follower, a friend or a mentor, a comic or a confidant, the spontaneity or the reasonable. It just all depends.

    This song has no relation to anything,…[Read more]

  • Hey there, it’s been a while. How are you?

    I am grateful for a great many things. But today, I am grateful for an expectedly awesome baseball game that I get to watch in the coming hours. I am grateful that it’s Friday – I look forward to Fridays as soon as Sunday rolls around every weekend. I am grateful for finding the motivation to go on a…[Read more]

  • @Drew Fridley Hey Drew, long time no see….whereabouts in the world have you been traveling as of late? Last I knew, you were trekking the globe.

  • Motivation in my life comes in spurts. I suppose that I am always the strongest motivator, after all, nothing gets done unless I decide to put one foot in front of the other – with purpose.

  • Recently you’ve probably heard about the discovery of the perversion files that have been kept in secrecy by the Boy Scouts. Just what in the hell – any leaders/volunteers or anyone involved in the program with

    • I and my bestfriend, and other friends, had that problem, with that group.

      Not much to say about it, not something I would want to have on record. Why do that? That disturbs me.

      I am open about this here, but that is it.

      In regards to religions in this trouble, they believe they are above the law, and that is wrong. They need to be prosecuted for covering up epidemic sexual abuse. In some cases, in some countries, these groups are being so. (Scientology, Jehovah Witnesses, Catholic, and other cultic Christian groups that see their own group as being ‘the only way to salvation’ have this conceited idea of themselves being above the law.)

    • Protecting children should be our #1 priority. But no……

      See: Catholic Church – these people are literally fucking children and no one seems to care. Watch ‘Spotlight’ or ‘The Keepers’. Pedophilia is alive and well in the Catholic community.

    • At what point should an organization be forced to disband due to reoccurring issues? i.e. these jackasses, churches, care centers, etc.

      What organization forces the other organization to disband?

      What organization is so free of corruption and reoccurring issues, that they have the qualification to be such a police force of justice?

      As long as people are involved, there are going to be scandals. You show me an organization free of sin, give me 5 minutes in their life, and I’ll show you unethical behavior and closets full of bones.

      • @Weenis

        TRUMP. LOTS OF BONES AND UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR.

        IS YOUR IDEA THAT SINCE ALL ORGANIZATIONS ARE CORRUPT, THAT SHOULD BE THE NORM? IF EVERYONE’S CORRUPT, NO ONE IS?

        • @Tits McGee

          My point is this: instead of giving corrupt organizations carte blanche power to disband other organizations, we should justly punish the people perpetrating crimes instead of punishing the entire organization.

          And I’m not defending Boy Scouts here, I think their a screwed up organization that has been liberalizing over the last many years to churn out a bunch of soy boys and accept girls in the ranks.

          I’m all for the organization dying, but BSA should die because it’s not relevant or sound, not because a bunch of soccer moms are pissed off that some pedo’s are diddling children.

          Let’s shoot the pedophiles in the head, and then continue to let the boy scouts as an organization commit suicide.

          • @Weenis

            Weenis: @Tits McGee

            My point is this: instead of giving corrupt organizations carte blanche power to disband other organizations, we should justly punish the people perpetrating crimes instead of punishing the entire organization.

            But aren’t these organizations at fault for not doing either their due diligence with volunteers and leaders or reporting abuse? Why shouldn’t the organization take the heat?

            • @mamajoy

              I am not familiar with the details, but there’s got to be dirty shit going on. Probably the Church – a.k.a. ‘Big Religion’ – is involved.

            • @mamajoy

              Whether the organization is at fault or not is hard to prove. If the organization is at fault, people should en masse remove their kids.

              It would be disbanded because a moral people don’t want to entrust their children to an immoral org. Also, if we justly punished pedophiles in this country, and the entire organization was at fault, the entire organization would cease to exist because all the pedo’s would be dead.

              No need to setup a watchdog org or an org that watches orgs for misconduct.

      • @Weenis This is true. I suppose that no organization can truly police another without dirt on their hands.

        So how about this – at what point should an organization receive disciplinary action and/or lose benefits(like their non-profit status) for these type of repeated offenses.

    • I think it is a problem. I take James Baldwin’s stance. Jame’s Baldwin famously said we are responsible for anything we didn’t do anything to stop. I think we need to take a stand on these kinds of issues, and not rationalize it because we were not directly impacted.

  • @ladybarbara I see that he hasn’t been around in a while. Tag him when you mention him and @Griz should get a notification when he’s mentioned. :wink:

  • The kilt! Thanks for the history lesson, and hopefully the HOA will let this one slide.

  • @Santa Bunny I know that the blocking feature doesn’t work as it should. I’ve tried to have it reworked several times, and I think it did work for a bit, but as the core system is updated the functions seem to have gone missing. I hope to be able to revisit this again.

  • @ladybarbara Thanks for the feedback, I have asked this person to stop. The multiple accounts will be removed, I hope that this will bring others back around again too.

  • @Weenis Hitting a phase? I hope all is well. I haven’t heard from you in a while.

  • @five2one I mean in the sense of wholly accepting another in your life without boundaries. People sometimes put up walls or limits when it comes to relationships either because they’re not ready to share all parts of themselves with another they are afraid of being hurt, opening up to another person wholly puts you at a vulnerable position, it…[Read more]

  • I know that things around here haven’t been so sunny lately. A lot of you may have trouble posting convos and navigating around the site – if that’s still an issue, holler.

    But I’d like to know why you return

    • It seems most of the topics are subjective postulations, not anything deep.

      I’ll read, browse, and if there’s something interesting, post.

      Also, I may be hitting a phase in life where I’m all out of F’s to give.

      • @Weenis Hitting a phase? I hope all is well. I haven’t heard from you in a while.

        • @mamajoy

          Oh all is going well, I’m just losing a lot of faith in the power of the pen, or even conversation.

          As we’ve seen on this site, and the previous, whenever there are alternate viewpoints, instead of discussing the point people just REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

          This is currently happening across college campuses all over the US. This is why the first amendment is a big discussion point right now. This is why many are standing by hate speech being protected by the first amendment, but the left wants to call everything hate speech and censor it.

          All these things are just putting me in the position of “meh” and doing my own thing, and let everyone else just do the dumb crap they’re going to regardlessly continue to do.

          Maybe I’m finally realizing in full effect the passage about pearls before swine?

          Here’s some financial advice, if you want to make some money, bet on Trump in 2020.

          Will you take my advice? Probably not. If you do, you’ll put $$$ in the bank.

          See, it’s kind of like that.

    • One person with several account names has ruined this site.

      • @ladybarbara Thanks for the feedback, I have asked this person to stop. The multiple accounts will be removed, I hope that this will bring others back around again too.

        • @mamajoy The loss of Griz is really sad.

          • @ladybarbara he deleted his account? wow.

            • @Jear77 Griz??? Wow! I guess a drunk making multiple accounts so that he could talk to himself was boring to Griz. I know it was boring to me. This site turned into something uninteresting, like watching as a drunk masturbates with his own words. The human interactions were not friendly. In fact, at times, it was nasty, mean spirited and hostile. I have been through a lot of things in my 72 years of life. I have traveled and married 5 times, I gave birth to 2 sons, I raised 7 sons (5 stepsons), and had many chapters to my life lived and closed, then put on a shelf to open and look at. Mr. Multiple accounts prided himself with calling me a liar when I shared anything about my life. There are just so many times I can get slapped in the face and then I go away. I noticed when you went silent and I missed you terribly. I enjoy your posts and answers. When Griz left and you went silent this site was ruined for me. I really enjoyed all the good friends on here. To see someone drunk posting and chasing other members away is sad to see. I hope this site can be saved and not die of being taken over by a drunk poster who feeds his own ego by talking to himself and insulting other members.

          • @ladybarbara I see that he hasn’t been around in a while. Tag him when you mention him and @Griz should get a notification when he’s mentioned. :wink:

            • @mamajoy I am not one to try to force someone to do what they clearly don’t want to do. I don’t try to change anyone’s mind, or force myself where I am not invited to go. When Griz is ready to come back, he will do it on his own.

    • We should be able to self-police, but when blocking doesn’t work, that’s tough.

  • I’d have to agree that there is someone for everyone but I think finding that connection relies on one’s ability to accept another person in their lives wholly.

  • Load More