As you get further on a spiritual path or a quest for enlightenment, do you feel more alone or more connected? What do you make of people who say that the path to enlightenment is a lonely place where there are few people to talk to or share with?




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  1. Gina 2 weeks ago

    I don’t think the path to enlightenment is lonely. I think of it as a quiet place, with other enlightened people who don’t feel they have to be heard all the time. I constantly work on my listening skills.

    Found this quote:

    The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand.
    We listen to reply.

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  2. ladybarbara 2 weeks ago

    @Gina said it just right. There is no lonely. I am never lonely, even when alone. There is so much to listen to, even if it is only the wind, or the buzz of the wings of a hummingbird visiting the feeder.

    I like that last part of Gina’s post. It is very true about communication today.

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    • griz 2 weeks ago

      @ladybarbara
      Our society seems to teach that all who are not a part of the crowd must be lonely.

      And all who enjoy gentle wanderings where few others tread, must be lost.

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      • ladybarbara 2 weeks ago

        @griz I do my work best when alone. Even at home here, I work best when Immortal Pirate is not sitting in the big middle of things watching television. I wait until he LEAVES for his weekly body massage, then I get my ass moving to get things done around here. I am stunted by his presence.

        It was the same thing when I cleaned houses for a living. If the client was home while I cleaned, I did not work efficiently. I always worried that my dusting their desk while they are sitting at it would bother them. Vacuuming when they get a business call was forbidden. Also, the dishwasher and any laundry noise was bothersome when the client was trying to conduct business from home. I felt stunted and bothered by their presence. I even felt that the client was listening to see how efficient I was at getting the house cleaned. I work best alone and quietly. I multi-task and listen to the timing and whirrr of the machines I am running.

        I am at my best when I am alone. I guess society doesn’t understand that.

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      • griz 1 week ago

        @ladybarbara
        The crux of the issue seems to be that people don’t like spending a lot of time with someone they don’t like!

        It’s poignant the lengths people will go to, to avoid spending some time alone with just themselves.

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    • Gina 2 weeks ago

      @ladybarbara I remember @spitfire3dc saying something about this before. How many don’t really listen, but are more eager to respond.

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  3. immortal_pirate 2 weeks ago

    My path is to enlighten others…

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  4. spitfire3dc 2 weeks ago

    I feel closer to some and disconnected from others.

    My opinion for what its worth (literally nothing) is that very few people want to experience a sense of enlightenment. They want to feel a sense of being right, regardless of any effort to confirm it and can find their truth in their facts based on their perspective. That encompasses the significant majority, of which, I could possibly be a part.

    The weird thing is that the closer you get to a degree of feeling you are reaching a stage of enlightenment, the more you realize the enormous distance remaining ahead. And, if you believe you have arrived, the likelihood is that you are much further from your destination than you think you are. Its a real bouncy castle.

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    • griz 2 weeks ago

      @Spitfire3dC
      When enough of a society chooses stagnation over growth, things start to stink!

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  5. griz 2 weeks ago

    Any feelings of loneliness come as one disconnects from the dead-end games and delusions that our secular society loves playing, thinking that they actually mean something of lasting significance.

    A new chapter cannot begin before the old chapter is closed out; and it is normal to anguish what one feels they are losing.
    What there is to gain in the new chapter, has not fully manifest.

    And one recognizes that the connections and feelings of the past chapter are growing more distant and less weighty as one travels past them.

    The loss of one’s spiritual innocence, can be likened to losing one’s childish innocence.

    It is the watershed event between growth and stagnation.

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  6. griz 2 weeks ago

    There is this concept, coming in so many words from several spiritual paths I’ve explored. It starts with the recognition of there being a spiritual path, often likened to climbing a mountain. There is the recognition that at the summit of this mountain, lies the most blessed destination for our species. And we are all as a race, climbing this mountain.

    Now something akin to a conga-line comes to my fatigued mind! And some get very motivated to climb this mountain, race ahead, and soon find themselves a conga-line of one! The correct “prescription” is to turn around and go back until you can find someone else to conga with — and bring them along to where you turned back from. And then if you’re still just two at this point, go back and find some more, and so on. Any expedition like this needs trail-blazers. But if they get too far ahead, of what use are they to the main body of climbers?

    There is the idea that we have to do this not just individually, but as a group. Individual spiritual enlightenment is a good thing — but also a rather hollow thing if there’s nobody else there to stretch, exercise, participate, journey with.

    Those that persist in racing too far ahead, quickly become what is known in Christian circles as “Too heavenly-minded to be any earthly good”. They lapse into the selfishness of just doing it for themselves — which I would assert will disqualify them from finding the ultimate destination or “prize”.

    The reciprocal of this, are those who have lagged too far back in the line and find themselves lonely and isolated there — depressed, disillusioned and despondent. The correct “prescription” in this case, is for the main body of the conga-line to send some people back to encourage them along so they can re-connect with the upward progression of the species.

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  7. BelleMadre 2 weeks ago

    sometimes spirituality is what connects me to others, and sometimes it is what allows me peace and to connect only to myself. right now what helps me feel connected to myself is quick moments of spirit.
    i think we can reach deep within ourselves, but we can share that with others on a similar path
    i can be one in a circle of many, and part of a circle while being my own self

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