I just watched a really interesting old twilight zone. It was from Season Five, called the old man and the cave. It was about a small community that apparently survived some catastrophe where as many perished. When the military that was left found the community, the community claimed they survived because of an old man in a cave who told them what to do, what to fear etc, basically an analogy for a god. The military people scoffed at this and planted doubt in their minds. Eventually the cave was opened to reveal not an old man, but a machine. Short time afterwards, the people of the community died and the question was asked, can faithlessness be the humans Achilles heel? Is faith in something like the old man in cave needed because of the greed of humans? Is a story needed to keep us alive?

Bonus question: One argument I see a lot of on social media is between christians. They seem to fall between two camps:
1) christians who are in favor of building a wall and in favor of the current policies on immigration.
2) christians who think this is wrong.
With the division that we are seeing between christians on this and other issues, is the question about faith or lack thereof still a valid one?




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  1. ladybarbara 1 month ago

    I am of the camp that believes that a tall unclimbable wall is a good thing. The active word is illegal. ILLEGAL. It means breaking the law. If they come through our borders and climb over our border walls, then they are crossing into our country ILLEGALLY. They are breaking the laws.

    Amnesty is for people who are in fear of being killed in their own country. Amnesty is NOT given just because they want a job here, so that they can send money back home. To come here waving a flag from another country and fighting with our border patrol is called an invasion. To invade our country is criminal.

    There are people who come here legally through the proper gates and they work on getting citizenship. They get a sponsor and take classes, they pay all the fees and get their documentations. They strive to become citizens. They are legal immigrants. When they wave a flag, it is an American flag. I am all for those who want to do it right.

    Illegal immigration is —— illegal. It is against the law and criminal.

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    • Tits McGee 1 month ago

      @ladybarbara

      how do you think your ancestors got here?

      wake up stink. you and all your trumpers are a joke.

      you are a racist

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      • Weenis 1 month ago

        @Tits McGee

        When our ancestors got here, and when people discuss Ellis Island, we didn’t have social programs.

        People couldn’t come here and be a drag on society.

        When people used to come here, they would sell all they owned. They would sell their business, they would come here with cash and skills, and start a business.

        What happens now is people coming here, whether illegally or under some type of refugee status, and they milk the system. Oftentimes double dipping.

        This is a case told to me by the caseworker.

        Refugee comes here, him and his multiple wives, and children from each of the wives. Because we don’t recognize polygamy, the husband and one of his wives is given a house to live in, THAT WE PAY FOR!!! And then all of his other wives each get their own house to live in. Let’s say he has 5 wives total, so it’s really 5 houses total. What they they do is all move into one house, and then they rent out the 4 houses.

        Meanwhile, NO ONE has a job, and you and I are stuck footing the bill.

        Is this racist? No. Is it scalable? No.

        Build the wall, and vet everyone.

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      • Tits McGee 1 month ago

        @Weenis

        so who is going to do all the shit work? gardeners, maids, farming, cooks, painters, etc

        dont say whitey

        whitey wont work those jobs :rolf: :rolf:

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      • ladybarbara 1 month ago

        @Tits McGee I know how my ancestors got here. Lets start with the oldest one that died in 1930. His name was Stephen T. Mather, born in 1867, i believe in Chicago. IL. He opened up the National Parks in 1916 under President Woodrow Wilson. His life is well summarized — on a series of bronze markers which were posthumously cast in his honor and distributed through many parks:

        “He laid the foundation of the National Park Service, defining and establishing the policies under which its areas shall be developed and conserved, unimpaired for future generations. There will never come an end to the good he has done . . .”

        While Stephen T. Mather had a family back east, he bought my Grandmother out of slavery from the Mission in San Diego. Born during the end of the Modoc war of 1872 to 1873, my Grandma and her Mother (being in the family of Keinpoos Chief of the Modocs known as Captain Jack) were separated from the rest of the tribe when they were disbursed to 3 separate reservations. Because Captain Jacks family was not to live near the rest of the tribe. My Great Grandmother and her baby (my Grandmother) were held as slaves at the Mission San Diego. My Great Grandfather was known as Hooker Jim by the soldiers because his tribal name was Hooka, a baker of breads in the tribe. Hooka Jim was hanged after the Modoc war. My Grandma was purchased by Stephen T. Mather. Yes, he bought himself a squaw and had 13 children with her. My mother was one of those children.

        How did the Modoc tribe get here? Perhaps by the land bridge after the ice age. Judging by the bone structure of the Modoc Indians, I assume they started their journey to the Alaskan land bridge from Japan, because the bone structure and eye formation of my family hints of Japanese decent. However, the Native American Indians were natural born to America.

        As for my father, he came to New York and was processed through Ellis Island from Lacern, France. He came here to the United States LEGALLY with all his papers in order. He did not climb any fences to get here. He arrived by ship and followed all the rules and laws to becoming an American citizen. That is the way it is supposed to be done.

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      • Tits McGee 1 month ago

        @ladybarbara

        i really dont care that much to read what u wrote

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      • ladybarbara 1 month ago

        @Tits McGee Then DON’T FUCKING ASK!!!! You asked a question and I answered it. My Grandfather was Chicago born and the family is old AMERICAN blood. The largest part of my family are Native American and came here over the land bridge to Alaska after the ICE AGE thousands of years ago BEFORE there was a United States. My father came from France with all his documents in order and was processed through Ellis Island. He became an American citizen the RIGHT WAY!!!

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  2. immortal_pirate 1 month ago

    If you build it…

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  3. ladybarbara 1 month ago

    About the raids of the process plants by ICE. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the plants that hired all those undocumented workers were the targets of the courts and will be prosecuted. While the Democrats were quick to film crying children who were rightfully upset by the holding of the parents, that was a nothing burger reporting. While ICE is not a social service agency, they are a law enforcement agency. 680 people where held, but the ICE agents know that we cannot hold any more children in the child facilities, and there were not enough buses for all 680 people. People were sorted and parents that were single were processed quickly and released within hours, then parents with one parent to watch the children were held for only a day. Yes, they were going to be loading buses with deportations, but the deportations consisted of workers that did not have a child to be concerned about. The parents were processed with court papers and on alert that they and the children they brought over our border illegally will be deported, but they still have a buffer-zone of time. Many will disappear into society, because that is what illegals do. However, the businesses that hired the undocumented workers are the real target of that raid and they will be prosecuted by the law.

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  4. Squirrel 1 month ago

    Faith is earned and must be questioned. The best thing about the wall is that it would make it easier for legal pot to thrive with less competition. Realistically though it’s just a racist construct meant to turn our backs on the sufferings of our neighbors.

    We don’t need a God to behave benevolently, just a code of ethics and enough subjective wellbeing to transcend the suffering that makes us behave nasty, brutish, and shortsightedly. We behave cruelly and with callousness because we are suffering. Perhaps our favorite pirate gets callous because he’s a softy hurting on the inside.

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  5. Weenis 1 month ago

    Sounds like you’re asking if religion is a crutch necessary for humanity to thrive? It’s a question without any possible answer.

    The real issue is around the fact that we’re all religious, whether we like it or not. The important question is; what is the god of our religion?

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