According to this article https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/06/07/617097908/why-grandmothers-may-hold-the-key-to-human-evolution it’s true.

Who knew grandmothers were so important to our survival?

This kinda reminds me of a PT song we were taught in boot camp

When my granny was 91, she did PT for the sake of fun
When my granny was 92, she did PT way better than you
When my granny was 93, she did PT way better than me
When my granny was 94, she did PT more and more
When my granny was 95, she did PT just stayin’ alive
When my granny was 96, she did PT just for kicks
When my granny was 97, she did PT and she went to heaven




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  1. griz 5 months ago

    We’ve reached such a point of social toxicity relating to the sexes that few people bother to exercise even a germ of critical analysis on what they’re reading/hearing relating to it. Anything that is trying to elevate one of the sexes over by diminishing the input from the other, is suspect and biased from the get-go. Like it or not, we arrived here as a team.

    Yes, gatherers were an important part of the equation — which in the article included both the women and the girls. But the article then focuses just on the one aspect of hunting — the big game brought in by the men. There’s no mention of the small game often brought in, in abundance, by the boys (and the men when large game was scarce) Meat is meat.
    It also doesn’t consider seasons. Try finding that fruit or digging that tuber during the dry season or when the ground is frozen with 3 ft of snow on it. These were the times when hunting — even when times were lean — sustained the tribe.

    But in a bizarre way that the article doesn’t touch on, the grandmothers were the critical evolutionary force; because they are the ones who selected the strongest and most capable genes to be passed on into the children. This is HUGE! Women are the genetic Vanguard of the species. And yes, they did most of the gathering too.

    But without the men, they would have no pool of genes to pick from; and would have starved in the lean seasons when foraging would prove unfruitful.

    We got here together people. One has to both see and confront the forces that want to try to elevate one of the sexes by diminishing the other.

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      Jear77 5 months ago

      @griz my point is “who knew grandmothers were so tough.” When i think of a grandma, i see an old lady who can hardly walk on her own, not someone out doing actual… work.

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      • griz 5 months ago

        @Jear77
        I get that point. Anyone who thinks grandmothers aren’t tough should have met mine!

        But the spirit of that story was off in several ways, seeking to diminish the role of the men.
        We can still read and learn from it; but it had wicked undercurrents of group identity power politics.

        And without discernment of the undercurrents, we are swept away be them.

        One of the crazy things I did as a teen was to swim in a rock gorge, in the plunge pools of several waterfalls. It was tapped for Hydro generation upstream, meaning the flow could change drastically at a moment’s notice.
        Yea it was crazy, but also a test.
        But in that gorge I learned about undercurrents; and just how easily one could get swept away if one doesn’t realize they’re there.

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  2. ladybarbara 5 months ago

    My Grandma had a big piece of black granite that had a flattened top the was ground level. One winter day, I climbed on it and sat on it. Grandma gave me a spanking for sitting on her rock. I did not know what it was for until there came a Summer day that all the grandkids were playing in the yard. We were getting dirty in the hot sun. Instead of all of us kids running in the house for lunch, Grandma had her granite stone all clean and getting hot in the sun. She brought out a stack of her home made hand patted tortillas and some meat and salad, She cooked on that granite stone in the hot sun. We had tacos outside in the yard.

    Any surface that gets hot in the sun can be a surface to cook on. Immortal Pirate bought me a cast iron griddle and some day if I has to put it out in the sun, —- if there was no other way to cook —- like when camping out —- I will fix eggs and bacon on it, I can cook with the sun’s heat. Grandma taught me that.

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      Jear77 5 months ago

      @ladybarbara cool. I wish my grandmas had neat stuff like that.

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    • luftballooneyegouge 5 months ago

      @ladybarbara
      Those old projection screen TVs have a sheet of plastic behind the screen with concentric circles like a wallet magnifying lens, called a Fresnel lens. It’s like having a magnifying glass the size of the TV screen, and’ll cook things super fast, but you need eye protection and have to be careful not to burn whatever the light hits because there’s no off button.

      I’ve cooked hotdogs on a cast iron skillet with one.

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        Jear77 5 months ago

        @luftballooneyegouge sounds like a primitive laser

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      • luftballooneyegouge 5 months ago

        @Jear77
        The difference is it’s concentrated light forming a conical beam, where a laser is amplified light that forms a tight beam. Lasers do have concave mirrors in them though.

        With the Fresnel you can have a loosely focused bunch of light the size of the pan & it’ll get hot enough. I’ve never been able to get a dot like focus with a magnifying glass, which is probably a good thing safety wise.

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      • ladybarbara 5 months ago

        @luftballooneyegouge Really cool idea.

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  3. luftballooneyegouge 5 months ago

    Many have survived starvation from the grandmother super power of always having a Werther’s®.

    I remember back when it was always having a Brach’s® Starlight.
    Those didn’t save anybody.
    Back then you had to eat your bootstraps,… and that’s how we liked it.

    If you were really good you got the pinkwhitebrown candy that Granny had for so long the wrapper had petrified with the candy 99.99999%.
    …but we pinched onto that 0.00001% after about 15 minutes, & that’s how we like it.

    Hell, now they have soft Werther’s®!! It’s no wonder kids all wear bicycle helmets & shoes with blinking lights.
    AND THE SELECTION OF ADULT SHOES WITH BLINKING LIGHTS SUCKS

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